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Awesome. And people thought the comedy shows would dry up when Bush left office. There’s plenty of fodder, always will be.
I love the ending montage, one of my favorite movies.
Here is the link to check out the clip at Comedy Central, I’m guessing the YouTube version will get pulled down shortly.
The whole lot of ‘em.
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More than 50 supporters crowded into and around the committee room Friday morning, but some, including the bill’s sponsor Sen. Nicole LeFavour, D-Boise, left in tears after the committee voted to not print the bill.
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LeFavour said the lack of questions made her believe that “a decision was made behind closed doors.” She said education was the key to changing people’s minds about the issue.
Bryan Fischer, executive director of the Idaho Values Alliance, handed out a letter to committee members before the hearing. In the letter, Fischer said, “These laws represent a serious threat to fundamental constitutional rights of freedom of association, speech and religion.”
If they are going to deny equal protection to all Idahoans then they should at least have the backbone and tell everyone why.
Senator LeFavour has more at her blog.
…just take a gander at our neighbors to the south.
Of course, he’s just saying out loud what some Idaho politicos say behind closed doors.
I certainly don’t condone the rhetoric and actions coming out of California following the passing of Prop. 8, but how do you think Evangelicals or Mormons would act in Idaho if suddenly their marriages were considered null and void?
You take something from people who hold something near and dear to their hearts don’t be surprised when they don’t exactly like you and what you represent anymore.
A perfect world; get government out of the marriage business (it is indeed a revenue generating business) altogether — they say who can and who cannot get married and yet any two breathing troglodytes can breed to their hearts content — sucking up government resources as they go.
The government should only be concerned with "domestic partnerships" or "civil unions", keep "marriage" in the churches.
Ruh-roh.
Apparently some people in Nampa aren’t exactly happy about the election of Barack Obama. The Idaho Press-Tribune’s From the Editors blog reports that they’ve heard about two upside-down flags in Nampa, one being at a church according to a photo provided by a reader.
The promised follow-up piece from the IPT should be pretty interesting.
A must see for every American.
I have no doubt that had Byran Fischer, Adam Graham, Brandi Swindell or Clayton Cramer been involved in politics 50 years ago they would be railing against blacks and whites getting married — different era, new boogyman.
Hate the sin but love the sinner.
Uh-huh.
Remember kids, it is not what you say, it is what you do.
An interesting thing happened while Brandi was over in China, the story went from her protesting in Tiananmen Square to the media’s coverage of Brandi protesting in Tiananmen Square. Let’s face it, hardly anyone was talking about her protest outside of the Treasure Valley, very few news organizations even reported on it outside of Idaho. It never made the national news, it wasn’t covered extensively in blogs around the nation, no one really cared.
And why should anyone care what Brandi Swindell was up to? Religious persecution, police brutality and China’s surveillance society isn’t news to anyone who is paying attention. We all know it is there, we all know what happens, Brandi wasn’t enlightening anyone. Brandi went to China to get some free air time — and Idaho’s media happily obliged. And they aren’t done yet, I can only imagine how many cameras are going to greet Swindell at the Boise Airport when she returns to the valley.
From news producers comparing Brandi’s plight to that of Rosa Parks to the blatant reprinting of Swindell’s many press releases, Idaho’s media jumped on this non-story like John McCain on mound of pancakes at IHOP. The Idaho Statesman reported "The two are dragged across Beijing’s Tiananmen Square on their knees shortly after kneeling to
pray" when even the video they pointed to proved otherwise. Kevin Richert and Scott Picken both said that we shouldn’t be attacking who Brandi is, but paying attention to what she was trying to do. Accusing readers who protested their coverage of looking through filters.
That wasn’t the problem, the problem was that the media wasn’t applying any filters — at all.
They took the information they were being fed by Swindell and reported it as news. The Statesman, in a growing typical fashion went straight to Bryan Fischer looking for quotes, and he happily ponied up; “I think any time you’ve got friends of yours who are being held
incommunicado against their will in a communist country you have to
have some level of concern,”. Bullshit. Swindell was never in any danger, she wasn’t beaten, sent to any camps*. The whole reason she went to China now was that she knew she’d be in no danger, she knew the most that would happen would be that she would be sent back to the states. If Swindell had the courage and conviction that she claims to have, she’d go to China and protest when all the worlds video cameras aren’t focused on the Olympics, but when they are focused on Brangelina. In this case, the worst thing that happened to Swindell in China after breaking their laws was that she was fed KFC by Chinese authorities.
If anyone bothered to watch the YouTube videos (1, 2) or even the video from the Associated Press you can see that this whole thing was being blown out of proportion. The media loves this kind of sensationalism. It creates attention, it causes comment sections to fill up with bickering anonymous commenters. It creates repeat visits. It generates revenue.
Thankfully, some of Idaho’s media saw through Brandi’s attention-getting ploy, KBCI News ran a headline: "Swindell’s protests a story or publicity stunt?", The Idaho Press-Tribune asked readers if they should even be covering the story.
Just because an organization sends out a news release, doesn’t mean that it is news.
And yeah, I don’t think that Brandi Swindell cares about ordinary Chinese people, I don’t think she cares about Tibet or the Falun Gong or any repressed Buddhists. Brandi cares about abortion. Any other issues she raised was cover for her one central issue; abortion. And how can she claim to care about free speech when the Conservative ideology she subscribes to is all for crushing dissent, locking up protesters, questioning patriotism? And if I had to guess, Brandi only cares about religious freedom if you’re a member of her religion. But I could be wrong, she may be a modern day Mother Theresa helping the downtrodden and the oppressed — I just doubt it.
Let me know when Brandi fights for the rights of all people; homosexuals, women in the middle east or immigrants from Mexico. Now that’d be a news story.
*I’ll say it again; not that the Chinese don’t do that when there are no cameras around.
BLOGS: Left Side of the Moon, Kevin Richert, The MountainGoat Report
Detained again… (no media yet, just a release on Brandi’s blog) KTVB:
Brandi Arrested 2nd Time for Prayer
Three Americans Dragged by Police from Tiananmen Square — Public Prayer Deemed Illegal Demonstration
The Americans were arrested for the second time — It is not known when the human rights leaders will be released
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The same three Americans were also arrested yesterday while holding a banner and speaking out against China’s religious persecution.
While in custody Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, said, "We were in Tiananmen Square publicly praying for the people of China when police forcefully dragged us across the street."
Note the terminology; "arrested for the second time", if you weren’t arrested the first time, how can you be arrested for the second time? In the first video you can also hear Swindell say that they were "detained", not arrested. Also notice Mahoney’s quote "we were…publicly praying", if you watch their own videos you’ll note that he was screaming at the people passing by when the police finally confronted them. Before that you can actually see some police march by the protesters with hardly a glance.
I will say that just because they were shouting like the obnoxious media hounds that they are is not reason to be detained. They have the right to act like that, I fully support that. Why I find these people despicable is that they blatantly lie about what they are doing. They aren’t honest at all.
It is good and all that they are trying to raise awareness about what is going on in China, but it’s pretty clear the only reason they are there now is because there are cameras there. Why haven’t they ever protested in China before? Are they afraid of actually being tossed in a cell when the cameras aren’t there? Why haven’t they ever gone to the middle east to protest the oppression of women there? I think it is also pretty clear that they didn’t get the repression they wanted the first day, so they probably upped the ante for the second protest.
Videos down below.
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Well, I think most Idahoans how are peeved with how our state controls booze realize that as bad as it is here in Idaho; it’s a lot worse in some other states (I feel your pain Utahns). At least in Idaho it’s easy to get good microbrews from nearly any store and wine is easily accessible. Hell, we at least have wine shops, a lot of states require you to purchase wine and higher alcohol content beer from state run liquor stores. Idaho is also one of only 35 states that allow you to buy wine online (thank God for wine.com) and have it shipped to you.
Pennsylvania, being one of the aforementioned states with extreme booze control is going to try out some wine kiosks in supermarkets. You know, so you can buy a wine to go with that dinner you’re planning — a novel idea indeed.
The idea as a whole is really, really disturbing. One, you’ll have to only choose from a selection of about a dozen labels (so this would include your white, red, sparkling wine and dessert wine), and two you have to register with the state to be eligible to even buy the wine from these kiosks.
Vending-machine idea appalls wine crowd
HARRISBURG - For many, the future of buying wine in Pennsylvania could soon look something like this: your arm on a biometric sensor that will determine whether you’re old enough - and sober enough - to get your favorite bottle from a machine.
Called a "wine kiosk," it’s the latest concept being pushed by the state-run Liquor Control Board as a way to reduce hassles for consumers.
The kiosks - looking like large refrigerators with opaque glass built into a wood frame - would be placed in about 100 supermarkets across the state to finally make it possible to buy wine and food in the same place in Pennsylvania.
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The machines would carry about a dozen different wines and hold up to 500 bottles, and the opaque windows would prevent minors from viewing the bottles (ed. note: wtf?).
To use the machines, customers would have to register at the supermarket with the help of a Liquor Control Board employee. The registration would include providing fingerprints and a valid credit card, and allowing an infrared arm scan.
After that, users could go to any machine and place their arm and hand on a sensor. Once their identity was verified and the machine determined they were not intoxicated, the glass would clear and they could make their selection, which would arrive in a sealed package.
The kiosks would not be staffed, but Liquor Control Board employees at a remote location would track purchases, according to the summary.
Purchasing histories could be monitored to weed out potential problem drinkers. And special identification numbers etched on the bottles would make it possible to trace them back to the buyer.
While we continue to push for fairer booze laws in Idaho, thank your lucky stars that you don’t have to register with the state to buy wine at your local supermarket… yet.
This morning in the Idaho Statesman there is a story about Meridian Mayor Tammy de Weerd’s daughter and two tickets she has received for underage drinking. The common theme in the comments section at the Statesman site is to either forgive her for her “mistake” or advocating harsher punishment.
One commenter even wanted to make underage drinking a felony – yes, making the vast majority of our teens felons for experimenting with a socially acceptable intoxicant is a brilliant solution.
What’s to forgive?
I will also note that high school senior RoAnne de Weerd is the chair of Meridian’s Anti-Drug Coalition and also serves on America’s Promise National Youth Partnership Team plus a couple of other anti-booze/drugs groups. I think that it’s pretty clear she should resign those positions. Of course, drinking while telling others it’s evil is kind of an American pastime. This is also the second time she has been ticketed for underage drinking.
RoAnne de Weerd only did what about 66% of Idaho teens and a great deal of teens around the world do — drink alcoholic beverages. Only other countries actually educate their youth about alcohol. People wonder why we have so many problems with drinking in this country, the solution doesn’t lie with stricter regulations, it lies with education, understanding and reasoning. The prohibition of people under the age of 21 to drink has only pushed it underground, making it “taboo” and thus making it a special thing to drink. This is what creates binge drinking and addiction – binge drinking and alcoholism being the source of most of the ills caused by alcohol. People don’t kill people drunk driving after only 2-3 beers, they do it after 10 or 14.
Over the last couple of weeks there have been some interesting discussions about this topic on several of the wine and cooking blogs that I regularly read. I’ve wanted to mention something about it here, but haven’t been motivated to until I saw this story.
I find the 21 age requirement and fallacy ridden reasons behind it make for an interesting argument. On one hand the state allows you to get behind the wheel of a 5000lb truck or SUV at 16 and you’re allowed to elect city, state and national leaders at 18 – an awesome responsibility, on both accounts. But on another hand you can’t legally have a glass of wine with your parents at the dinner table. And let’s not even get me started that you can serve and die for your country at 18 (17 with mom and dads permission) and you still can’t sit down with a beer, either in public or at home. The government will train and arm you to go to foreign countries and kill human beings — one of the most sacred responsibilities known to man. And yet when you return home you can’t have a beer with your dad on your own back patio – is that freedom?
Doesn’t make sense to me. You?
Not allowing people to drink until they are 21 makes it seem like it’s this “big” thing when they are finally allowed to drink. Well, they don’t know it yet, but it’s not a “big” thing, it’s just an enjoyable thing. Here is something that history has proven time and time again – if you make something taboo, you’ll make people curious. And curious people do curious things.
When I was in the Army and in training at Fort Bliss in El Paso we were allowed to drink on base at 18 because they didn’t want soldiers going to Ciudad Juárez to drink (I call this being realistic). To me it wasn’t a big deal; I had done my fair share of weekend boozing by then, I’d lived on my own, I had what they called in the Army; “life experience”. I just wanted to focus on the Army and my task at hand and it paid off in dividends for me. However for the young soldiers who’d never been exposed to alcohol, well they went bat shit crazy with it – which invariably led to disciplinary problems. I’m sure you can take this same example and apply it to colleges across the country. There is nothing more degenerate than a sheltered kid who is finally beyond the grasp of their overbearing parents.
People think that if they shelter their children from alcohol and not teach them about it, that they won’t ever drink. Mom and dad do it, the media talks about it, their friends talk about it, and frankly it is a part of our society. And if parents they think their precious little snowflakes aren’t going to throw down at a kegger when mommy and daddy aren’t looking – well, they’re crazy.
One thing I’ve never understood about a great deal of Americans is their fascination with punishment over preventive education. Not only is it more cost effective to educate instead of punish but it makes logical sense. You can’t tell kids that no, alcohol is bad, bad, bad, but then turn around and drink yourself. They’re only going to wonder what you’re trying to hide from them — thus experiment on their own, which in turn leads them to not experiment responsibly in a controlled environment.
We don’t teach our kids how to drive without allowing them to physically drive so why would we do it any different with alcohol? Granted this is something that should be the parents’ responsibility; I’m not advocating a booze class as an elective for your senior year. Parents should have the right to allow their children to drink in their homes and be allowed to teach the negatives and positives of alcoholic beverages. And frankly, once a kid turns 18 and the government treats them as an adult in both privilege and punishment; they should be able to drink as well.
MEDIA: NYtimes
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We’ve been trying to clean up our image for the last couple of years but then something like this comes along which could set us back another 25 years.
Idaho Press-Tribune:
ANDERSON, S.C. — A Christian group pledging heavy involvement in government could make an “exodus” to Idaho rather than South Carolina.
According to the most recent issue of the Christian Exodus newsletter, the group’s new target may be Idaho.
“Several Christian Exodus members realize that due to commitments to extended family or other reasons, they will not be moving to South Carolina,” the newsletter stated.
Instead, they may be moving to Gem County in Southwest Idaho.
Christian Exodus, a group of individuals who believe in a literal interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, tempered with a devout Christian faith, had previously called for thousands of similar Christians to move to South Carolina one county at a time, starting with Anderson County. Their goal was to move enough people into the area to influence local elections, and in turn affect state elected officials.
With those key elements in place, the group hoped to either influence national legislation to return to a policy of limited federal government and increased states’ rights, or to secede from the Union of States.
Kind of makes ya wonder why ‘Thayne’ chose Emmett, huh?
Man, just check out their newsletter (pdf), it is full of classic nutball goodness. There is mention of secession, the establishment in D.C. assassinating Ron Paul if he’s elected, a mention of Idaho’s own Mr. Pro-Life (you know, the guy that literally changed his name to Marvin Pro-Life — only in Idaho, sheesh) and other assorted gems.
These are the kind of people that just amaze me. How in this day in age do we have people that are this oblivious to the real world? And we wonder why the rest of the civilized world looks over at us and just giggles under their collective breath when ever the fringe opens their mouth.
Sometimes the thought of just moving away and becoming an audience for the spectacle that is American citizenry seems more and more like a good idea.
Some things you read and they just don’t surprise you anymore.
Poll: Most Republicans Reject Evolution Gallup Survey Finds 68% Of Republicans Disbelieve Scientific Explanation Of Creation
AP) The three Republican presidential candidates who indicated last month that they do not believe in evolution may have been taking a safe stance on the issue when it comes to appealing to GOP voters.
A Gallup poll released Monday said that while the country is about evenly split over whether the theory of evolution is true, Republicans disbelieve it by more than 2-to-1.
Republicans saying they don’t believe in evolution outnumbered those who do by 68 percent to 30 percent in the survey. Democrats believe in evolution by 57 percent to 40 percent, as do independents by a 61 percent to 37 percent margin.
Oy vey. And we wonder why they are so good at running ruining government.
Via 43rd State Blues.
This is really quite interesting, for being such a small post the relevance is actually quite fascinating.
I couldn’t help but be immensely disturbed tonight as I watched Primetime: The Outsiders on ABC, an expose into Centennial Park, a sect of polygamist Mormons living in Utah. Although I didn’t really learn anything new tonight that I didn’t already know it was a stark reminder that this form of thinking is still alive today in America.
For one, I can’t help but be blown away when I hear a teenage girl say this:
"If he has six or seven wives, I’d accept
that," she says. "The man is not ours. We are given to the man but we
can’t claim him. So as many wives as he would want, he can have. As
long as it’s what God wants."
This has to be some form of child abuse in one way or another. It’s delusional, scary and primitive all at the same time. I’ve never understood women who for some reason or another think that they are inferior to their husbands or men at large. This of course applies to the women who hold onto to this thought after the truth is evident, not the ones who’ve been so sheltered that they don’t know that they are allowed to know better.
I’m not one to say whether one argument or another argument is right, but I can say that these enclosures foster sexism, sexual abuse and a myriad of other human rights abuses. It’s something that we need to address here in America before (or while) we go telling other religions and cultures around the world that they treat their women wrong.
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